Re: ARM defconfig files

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From: Linus Torvalds
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010 - 9:51 am

2010/7/12 Uwe Kleine-König <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>:

The reason I haven't replied is that

 (a) I don't think this really "solves" the issue, in that the
resulting files still aren't human-readable, and as such I suspect it
doesn't solve the problem in the long run: people will continue to
just run "make config" and then copy the resulting .config file as a
defconfig file.

and

 (b) even if ARM were to go this way, and run the scripts to minimize
the defconfig files, that's not something _I_ would do. If I get tired
of seeing the insane pull requests where 90% of the crap is just
defconfig noise, then _my_ solution will be to remove the crap because
I simply am never going to be the person who maintains those defconfig
files.

See? Especially the "(b)" part is relevant - I am simply not going to
be the person who tries to clean up after other people sh*tting all
over their trees with defconfig files.  If I do something, it will be
total surgery, ie "keep your damn broken defconfig files somewhere
else than in my tree - I'm tired of your stupidities". It will not be
"I'll be your mother and clean up your room every day after you made a
mess".

So if the ARM people decide that your script is a good way to clean up
the mess, I might be happy with that. But that would require that they
NEVER EVER try to push me a update that contains an un-cleaned-up
defconfig file. If they do, and the defconfig files end up showing up
big in git history, then the approach has failed.

See? The reason I'm not replying to your approach is that it's simply
not for me to do so (and no, I don't think it's maintainable, but I
haven't tried it, so..)

                            Linus
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Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jun 3, 7:48 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Tony Lindgren, (Thu Jun 3, 9:46 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Daniel Walker, (Thu Jun 3, 9:53 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Russell King, (Thu Jun 3, 11:10 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Russell King, (Thu Jun 3, 11:13 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jun 3, 11:18 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Daniel Walker, (Thu Jun 3, 11:20 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jun 3, 11:21 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Al Viro, (Thu Jun 3, 11:30 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Russell King, (Thu Jun 3, 11:41 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jun 3, 11:53 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Russell King, (Thu Jun 3, 11:53 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jun 3, 11:56 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Russell King, (Thu Jun 3, 12:20 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Paul Mundt, (Thu Jun 3, 12:26 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Daniel Walker, (Thu Jun 3, 12:35 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Russell King, (Thu Jun 3, 12:45 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Daniel Walker, (Thu Jun 3, 12:49 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Russell King, (Thu Jun 3, 12:57 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jun 3, 1:05 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Daniel Walker, (Thu Jun 3, 1:06 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jun 3, 1:09 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Russell King, (Thu Jun 3, 1:18 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Jun 3, 1:20 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Thu Jun 3, 1:31 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Jun 3, 1:34 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Tony Lindgren, (Thu Jun 3, 2:17 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Tony Lindgren, (Thu Jun 3, 2:33 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Daniel Walker, (Thu Jun 3, 2:48 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Grant Likely, (Thu Jun 3, 3:15 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Daniel Walker, (Thu Jun 3, 3:24 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Nicolas Pitre, (Thu Jun 3, 3:45 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Kevin Hilman, (Thu Jun 3, 5:23 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Paul Mackerras, (Thu Jun 3, 5:36 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu Jun 3, 6:02 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu Jun 3, 6:06 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Tony Lindgren, (Thu Jun 3, 9:53 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Tony Lindgren, (Thu Jun 3, 9:59 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Felipe Balbi, (Thu Jun 3, 10:18 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Tony Lindgren, (Thu Jun 3, 10:29 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Geert Uytterhoeven, (Thu Jun 3, 11:30 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Geert Uytterhoeven, (Thu Jun 3, 11:53 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Fri Jun 4, 1:52 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Catalin Marinas, (Fri Jun 4, 4:31 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Grant Likely, (Fri Jun 4, 5:39 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Felipe Contreras, (Sat Jun 5, 6:47 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Felipe Contreras, (Sat Jun 5, 7:12 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Sat Jun 5, 7:39 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Felipe Contreras, (Sat Jun 5, 9:39 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, david, (Sat Jun 5, 8:28 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, david, (Sat Jun 5, 8:53 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Catalin Marinas, (Tue Jun 8, 8:30 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Daniel Walker, (Tue Jun 8, 9:37 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Uwe Kleine-König, (Mon Jun 14, 1:32 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Uwe Kleine-König, (Wed Jun 30, 3:40 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Uwe Kleine-König, (Mon Jul 12, 8:55 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Mon Jul 12, 9:51 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Russell King - ARM Linux, (Mon Jul 12, 10:32 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Mon Jul 12, 10:40 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Uwe Kleine-König, (Mon Jul 12, 11:50 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Mon Jul 12, 12:04 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Nicolas Pitre, (Mon Jul 12, 12:09 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Nicolas Pitre, (Mon Jul 12, 12:17 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Mon Jul 12, 12:34 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Grant Likely, (Mon Jul 12, 12:50 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Uwe Kleine-König, (Mon Jul 12, 12:59 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Russell King - ARM Linux, (Mon Jul 12, 1:06 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Nicolas Pitre, (Mon Jul 12, 1:14 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Nicolas Pitre, (Mon Jul 12, 1:29 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Arnd Bergmann, (Mon Jul 12, 1:31 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Nicolas Pitre, (Mon Jul 12, 1:50 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Mon Jul 12, 2:54 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, David Brown, (Mon Jul 12, 4:05 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Linus Torvalds, (Mon Jul 12, 4:18 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, David Brown, (Mon Jul 12, 4:34 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Nicolas Pitre, (Mon Jul 12, 5:55 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Uwe Kleine-König, (Tue Jul 13, 12:07 am)
optimized script [Was: ARM defconfig files], Uwe Kleine-König, (Tue Jul 13, 1:07 am)
Re: optimized script [Was: ARM defconfig files], Olof Johansson, (Tue Jul 13, 11:04 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Rob Landley, (Tue Jul 13, 11:32 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Grant Likely, (Tue Jul 13, 11:32 am)
Re: optimized script [Was: ARM defconfig files], Nicolas Pitre, (Tue Jul 13, 4:39 pm)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Felipe Contreras, (Wed Jul 14, 2:13 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Felipe Contreras, (Wed Jul 14, 2:21 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Uwe Kleine-König, (Wed Jul 14, 6:20 am)
Re: ARM defconfig files, Tony Luck, (Wed Jul 14, 10:37 am)