Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support)

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From: Linus Torvalds
Date: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 12:44 pm

On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:

*All* of the buddy bitmaps, *all* of the GPF_ATOMIC, *all* of the zone 
watermarks, everything that we depend on every single day, is in the end 
just about statistically workable.

We do 1- and 2-order allocations all the time, and we "know" they work. 
Yet Nick (and this whole *idiotic* thread) has all been about how they 
cannot work.


This is not about performance. Never has been. It's about SGI wanting a 
way out of their current 16kB mess.

The way to fix performance is to move to x86-64, and use 4kB pages and be 
happy. However, the SGI people want a 16kB (and possibly bigger) 
crap-option for their people who are (often _already_) running some 
special case situation that nobody else cares about.

It's not about "performance". If it was, they would never have used ia64 
in the first place.  It's about special-case users that do odd things.

Nobody sane would *ever* argue for 16kB+ blocksizes in general. 

		Linus

PS. Yes, I realize that there's a lot of insane people out there. However, 
we generally don't do kernel design decisions based on them. But we can 
pat the insane users on the head and say "we won't guarantee it works, but 
if you eat your prozac, and don't bother us, go do your stupid things".
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[00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Mon Sep 10, 11:03 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Tue Sep 11, 5:05 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Tue Sep 11, 9:02 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Tue Sep 11, 9:47 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Maxim Levitsky, (Tue Sep 11, 11:25 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Tue Sep 11, 12:20 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 1:01 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 1:03 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 1:07 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 1:11 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 1:13 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 1:41 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 1:42 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 2:35 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 2:41 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 2:48 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 2:52 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Tue Sep 11, 4:26 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 5:00 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 11, 5:04 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed Sep 12, 1:20 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Martin J. Bligh, (Wed Sep 12, 7:29 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Wed Sep 12, 4:06 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Wed Sep 12, 4:17 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Thu Sep 13, 7:38 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Fri Sep 14, 9:10 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Fri Sep 14, 10:52 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Fri Sep 14, 11:08 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Fri Sep 14, 11:15 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Fri Sep 14, 5:31 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Fri Sep 14, 5:33 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sat Sep 15, 5:14 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Sat Sep 15, 8:51 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sat Sep 15, 1:14 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Sat Sep 15, 3:30 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sun Sep 16, 6:54 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Sun Sep 16, 8:08 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Linus Torvalds, (Sun Sep 16, 11:15 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Linus Torvalds, (Sun Sep 16, 11:44 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Sun Sep 16, 11:50 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Sun Sep 16, 2:31 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sun Sep 16, 2:58 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sun Sep 16, 3:06 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sun Sep 16, 3:38 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sun Sep 16, 3:48 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sun Sep 16, 3:51 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sun Sep 16, 3:56 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Mon Sep 17, 3:00 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Mon Sep 17, 3:03 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Mon Sep 17, 3:05 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Mon Sep 17, 3:10 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Mon Sep 17, 3:21 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Linus Torvalds, (Tue Sep 18, 11:30 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Tue Sep 18, 12:18 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Tue Sep 18, 12:31 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Linus Torvalds, (Tue Sep 18, 12:44 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 18, 1:36 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Tue Sep 18, 1:42 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Wed Sep 19, 7:04 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Thu Sep 20, 7:54 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Thu Sep 20, 11:07 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Thu Sep 20, 11:11 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sat Sep 22, 10:50 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sat Sep 22, 11:22 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sat Sep 22, 11:49 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Goswin von Brederlow, (Sat Sep 22, 11:56 pm)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Andrea Arcangeli, (Mon Sep 24, 8:39 am)
Re: [00/41] Large Blocksize Support V7 (adds memmap support), Christoph Lameter, (Mon Sep 24, 2:13 pm)