Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1]

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From: Arjan van de Ven
Date: Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 6:25 am

> What's the benefit of doing so - and why has not it been done before?

you're mixing up 2 concepts:
1) clocksource
2) eventsource

1) is for "what time is it now", and acpi_pm is useful for that, as are
several other things such as rdtsc
2) is for "I need THIS to happen X miliseconds from now". acpi_pm is not
useful for that, nor is rdtsc.

some can be used for both (PIT), but on a concept level the uses are
independent. The advantage of local apic over PIT is that local apic is
cheap to do "one shot" future events with, while the PIT will tick
periodic at a fixed frequency. With tickless idle.. that's not what you
want.


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Linux 2.6.21-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Tue Feb 20, 9:53 pm)
Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1, Faik Uygur, (Wed Feb 21, 6:26 am)
Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1, Thomas Gleixner, (Wed Feb 21, 6:32 am)
Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1, Kok, Auke, (Wed Feb 21, 8:58 am)
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Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1, Thomas Gleixner, (Wed Feb 21, 10:07 am)
Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1, Daniel Walker, (Wed Feb 21, 10:19 am)
Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1, Daniel Walker, (Wed Feb 21, 10:38 am)
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Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Feb 21, 12:24 pm)
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Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1, Linus Torvalds, (Wed Feb 21, 1:18 pm)
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Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1, Thomas Gleixner, (Wed Feb 21, 2:21 pm)
Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1, Daniel Walker, (Wed Feb 21, 2:23 pm)
Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1 [git bisect], Pete Harlan, (Wed Feb 21, 3:05 pm)
NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Luca Tettamanti, (Wed Feb 21, 4:04 pm)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Thomas Gleixner, (Wed Feb 21, 4:17 pm)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Luca Tettamanti, (Wed Feb 21, 4:19 pm)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Jan Engelhardt, (Thu Feb 22, 5:36 am)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Feb 22, 6:25 am)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Pierre Ossman, (Thu Feb 22, 7:10 am)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Feb 22, 7:20 am)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Pierre Ossman, (Thu Feb 22, 7:51 am)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Pierre Ossman, (Thu Feb 22, 8:13 am)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Thomas Gleixner, (Thu Feb 22, 8:51 am)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Thomas Gleixner, (Thu Feb 22, 9:00 am)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Pierre Ossman, (Thu Feb 22, 9:27 am)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Feb 22, 9:42 am)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck, David Miller, (Thu Feb 22, 10:26 am)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck, Thomas Gleixner, (Thu Feb 22, 10:39 am)
RE: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Pallipadi, Venkatesh, (Thu Feb 22, 12:58 pm)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Pierre Ossman, (Thu Feb 22, 2:07 pm)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Andreas Mohr, (Thu Feb 22, 2:25 pm)
Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Arjan van de Ven, (Thu Feb 22, 3:21 pm)
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Re: NO_HZ: timer interrupt stuck [Re: Linux 2.6.21-rc1], Pierre Ossman, (Thu Feb 22, 11:55 pm)
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